Discussion:
The Whom do we Trust Thread
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AFTL-FAQ Maintainer
2003-11-25 19:17:45 UTC
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I haven't even begun to READ these OFF-TOPIC POSTS, and I am going to
post the FACTS for the users to make their own decision:

AFTL-FAQ Maintainer is Terry Ortman. His FAQ is the usenet-admin
approved FAQ for the newsgroups and is stored on the Faq-Server at
rtfm.mit.edu. The Rules for FAQs are clear, just as the Copyright Law
is clear, the author must provide there Name and Contact information.
Everyone who reads my FAQ knows who I am. My purpose in the usenet
community is to inform the readers about Traci Lords.

Dupas makes a claim that he has the newsgroup FAQ, which is a
Copyrighted Publication owned Solely by Terry Ortman. Copyright Theft
is a Felony, punishable by a 25 year prison sentence and a minimum
$250,000.00 fine for every violation.

Terry Ortman posted his FAQ originally back in 1995, from that FAQ he
has been contacted by others and has been able to amass quite a
collection of Traci Lords merchandise. He has an agreement with the
Foreign Distributors of her Adult Videos to sell them in the US, as
does at least one other person in texas, he does NOT make a profit on
any of these videos.

Dupas maintains that you CAN NOT BUY her videos anywhere, except from
the Happy Shopper, which has maybe 12 videos, all but one is
subtitled, and they are very expensive to order these copies. My
experience when I ordered the French DVDs, they APPLY Permanent labels
to the DVDs covering up the artwork on the DVD, and they remove the
Retail Inserts, and send you the DVDs that way.

Terry Ortman has been contacted by Traci Lords Manager, in other
words, Traci Lords KNOWS Terry Ortman is the FAQ maintainer for the
newsgroups about her and had her agent contact him, to put her
Official Web Site in the FAQ.

Dupas only posts defamatory messages to the newsgroups, anonymously,
because he refuses to identify himself, to slander, libel, and defame
Terry Ortman.

Terry Ortman is constantly looking for Traci Lords Material, read the
FAQ, and has been colecting items since 1995, and has amassed a pretty
large collection. He has published one CD-ROM with the majority of
Traci Lords Images, etc., on it, and is doing his beat to allow other
fans of Traci to collect her work.

Dupas continually puts down Terry Ortman, and continues to encourage
Theft of Copyright by encouraging users to download very bad copies of
third, fourth, or even more generation videos captured by people like
Slavetrainer on a cheap TV capture card which are in 180x120 or some
other SMALL format like that, and are postage stamp sized videos.

Terry Ortman is currently using his Retail Master Videos of these
films, and is capturing them in DV quality, and is then converting
them to the 720x480 MPEG-2 DVD quality video and is burning them on
DVDs to preserve the quality of the original video, and is offering
copies, Digital Copies of Digital Material DO NOT Degenerate.

Dupas is trying to STOP people from obtaining her videos that are
legally sold and are still being manufactured and distributed by
foreign distributors.

Terry Ortman just re-posted his OLD Reviews of the Canadian Retail
Videos to this newsgroup, including the NEW Releases the Canadian
Distributor has added, as well as including his own personal
collection titles of Traci Lords Retail Master Tapes, and is offering
VHS/Beta/DVD Full Screen copies of these videos.

Dupas refuses to acknowledge or even credit the Copyright Owner of the
FAQ on any of his posts, he calls him a lunatic....

Terry Ortman does not do name calling, and his FAQ contains a LIST of
all the movies with descriptions that Traci Lords has made and been
in, as well as list all her magazine appearances, biography, etc., and
is all FACTUAL DATA. There is NOTHING in that FAQ that degrades
anyone, and contains the most up to date info regarding Traci Lords.
The links to buy her videos may be bad, because servers delete sites
that are not updated after so many days, and I am working on finding
new servers to get the sites back up.

If you want to be a LOSER and settle for postage stamp sized videos of
Traci's work, then listen to Dupas and his followers. Be sure to
click FULL Screen on Windows Media Player to enjoy the snowy, very BAD
quality of those videos.

If you want FULL Screen, High Quality Video of her videos, you can
email me, the FAQ maintainer and get a list of what we have. You can
play our DVDs on your computer or your TV and get FULL SCREEN quality,
as well as play the VHS/Beta videos and get full screen quality.

You decide who to trust.
SlaveTrainer
2003-11-25 19:57:48 UTC
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Post by AFTL-FAQ Maintainer
AFTL-FAQ Maintainer is Terry Ortman. His FAQ is the usenet-admin
approved FAQ for the newsgroups
Hey ASSHOLE usenet admin DOES NOT APPROVE A GROUPS FAQ, the GROUP DOES
and no one here ever approved of your SPAM RANT. Take your shit
elsewhere! The only thing Usnet admin does is approve of a format
suitable for their archive.
You are a raving lunatic and CONFIRMED USENET KOOK! You sell
everything you can get your hands on for a profit and inferior copies
of copies of TL movies are only a fragment of the crap you have to
sell. If you were really interested in NO PROFIT you would post some
DVDs of these movies you have, but you won'y cuz you are a leeching
scum sucking parasite.

ST

http://dupasoi7.home.mindspring.com/faq/welcome.htm
Studly Gearhead
2003-11-26 14:31:15 UTC
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If there is anyone "out there" who doubts Ortman's status as a usenet
kook just click on this link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=ortman&safe=off&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.kooks&lr=&num=50&hl=en
Here you can read about all sorts of stuff -- like how he was going to
shut down AOL! He achieving the award of "usenet kook of the month"
in Sept. 1998. There are other laughs to be had there too. Just FYI,
he used to call himself "The Watcher."

Just click on the above link and read for yourself. Then decide who
you trust.

The correct FAQ for the Traci Lords groups is here:
http://dupasoi7.home.mindspring.com/faq/welcome.htm
That psycho babble "FAQ" that Orthole posts provides only a small
glimpse into his rather unstable world.

One last point I would like to make is: does it make sense to anyone
that Terry Ortman can legally sell Traci videos retail in the US when
nobody else can? It makes no sense to me at all.

SG


On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:57:48 GMT, SlaveTrainer
Post by SlaveTrainer
Post by AFTL-FAQ Maintainer
AFTL-FAQ Maintainer is Terry Ortman. His FAQ is the usenet-admin
approved FAQ for the newsgroups
Hey ASSHOLE usenet admin DOES NOT APPROVE A GROUPS FAQ, the GROUP DOES
and no one here ever approved of your SPAM RANT. Take your shit
elsewhere! The only thing Usnet admin does is approve of a format
suitable for their archive.
You are a raving lunatic and CONFIRMED USENET KOOK! You sell
everything you can get your hands on for a profit and inferior copies
of copies of TL movies are only a fragment of the crap you have to
sell. If you were really interested in NO PROFIT you would post some
DVDs of these movies you have, but you won'y cuz you are a leeching
scum sucking parasite.
ST
http://dupasoi7.home.mindspring.com/faq/welcome.htm
SlaveTrainer
2003-11-25 20:03:54 UTC
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Post by AFTL-FAQ Maintainer
Dupas refuses to acknowledge or even credit the Copyright Owner of the
FAQ on any of his posts, he calls him a lunatic....
Because you are you sick fuck lunatic. There is something very wrong
witha moron who refers to himself in the 3rd person and if TLs manager
contacted you it was to threaten you with a lawsuit if you continued
to sell copies of her underage performances as well as her mainstream
works against copyright. You cry Dupas is breaking copyright laws,
jsut what the fuck do you think you are doing? Huh, nutcase?

ST

http://dupasoi7.home.mindspring.com/faq/welcome.htm
No Way
2003-11-26 04:52:07 UTC
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Hey dumbass. Selling any of her porn videos other than Traci I Love you
is a federal offience in the USA. Why? Because they are considered Child
Porn. So if you are selling copies then you are breaking Federal law.
Traci Lords and her manager don't want copies of her adult movies
floating around no matter what kind of happy horseshit you are saying.
They would not authorize anyone to sell her stuff since she is trying to
distance herself from those days.

You are so full of shit your eyes are brown.

Take your ranting bullshit ass someplace where they might believe your
shit. It ain't here.
Post by AFTL-FAQ Maintainer
I haven't even begun to READ these OFF-TOPIC POSTS, and I am going to
AFTL-FAQ Maintainer is Terry Ortman. His FAQ is the usenet-admin
approved FAQ for the newsgroups and is stored on the Faq-Server at
rtfm.mit.edu. The Rules for FAQs are clear, just as the Copyright Law
is clear, the author must provide there Name and Contact information.
Everyone who reads my FAQ knows who I am. My purpose in the usenet
community is to inform the readers about Traci Lords.
Dupas makes a claim that he has the newsgroup FAQ, which is a
Copyrighted Publication owned Solely by Terry Ortman. Copyright Theft
is a Felony, punishable by a 25 year prison sentence and a minimum
$250,000.00 fine for every violation.
Terry Ortman posted his FAQ originally back in 1995, from that FAQ he
has been contacted by others and has been able to amass quite a
collection of Traci Lords merchandise. He has an agreement with the
Foreign Distributors of her Adult Videos to sell them in the US, as
does at least one other person in texas, he does NOT make a profit on
any of these videos.
Dupas maintains that you CAN NOT BUY her videos anywhere, except from
the Happy Shopper, which has maybe 12 videos, all but one is
subtitled, and they are very expensive to order these copies. My
experience when I ordered the French DVDs, they APPLY Permanent labels
to the DVDs covering up the artwork on the DVD, and they remove the
Retail Inserts, and send you the DVDs that way.
Terry Ortman has been contacted by Traci Lords Manager, in other
words, Traci Lords KNOWS Terry Ortman is the FAQ maintainer for the
newsgroups about her and had her agent contact him, to put her
Official Web Site in the FAQ.
Dupas only posts defamatory messages to the newsgroups, anonymously,
because he refuses to identify himself, to slander, libel, and defame
Terry Ortman.
Terry Ortman is constantly looking for Traci Lords Material, read the
FAQ, and has been colecting items since 1995, and has amassed a pretty
large collection. He has published one CD-ROM with the majority of
Traci Lords Images, etc., on it, and is doing his beat to allow other
fans of Traci to collect her work.
Dupas continually puts down Terry Ortman, and continues to encourage
Theft of Copyright by encouraging users to download very bad copies of
third, fourth, or even more generation videos captured by people like
Slavetrainer on a cheap TV capture card which are in 180x120 or some
other SMALL format like that, and are postage stamp sized videos.
Terry Ortman is currently using his Retail Master Videos of these
films, and is capturing them in DV quality, and is then converting
them to the 720x480 MPEG-2 DVD quality video and is burning them on
DVDs to preserve the quality of the original video, and is offering
copies, Digital Copies of Digital Material DO NOT Degenerate.
Dupas is trying to STOP people from obtaining her videos that are
legally sold and are still being manufactured and distributed by
foreign distributors.
Terry Ortman just re-posted his OLD Reviews of the Canadian Retail
Videos to this newsgroup, including the NEW Releases the Canadian
Distributor has added, as well as including his own personal
collection titles of Traci Lords Retail Master Tapes, and is offering
VHS/Beta/DVD Full Screen copies of these videos.
Dupas refuses to acknowledge or even credit the Copyright Owner of the
FAQ on any of his posts, he calls him a lunatic....
Terry Ortman does not do name calling, and his FAQ contains a LIST of
all the movies with descriptions that Traci Lords has made and been
in, as well as list all her magazine appearances, biography, etc., and
is all FACTUAL DATA. There is NOTHING in that FAQ that degrades
anyone, and contains the most up to date info regarding Traci Lords.
The links to buy her videos may be bad, because servers delete sites
that are not updated after so many days, and I am working on finding
new servers to get the sites back up.
If you want to be a LOSER and settle for postage stamp sized videos of
Traci's work, then listen to Dupas and his followers. Be sure to
click FULL Screen on Windows Media Player to enjoy the snowy, very BAD
quality of those videos.
If you want FULL Screen, High Quality Video of her videos, you can
email me, the FAQ maintainer and get a list of what we have. You can
play our DVDs on your computer or your TV and get FULL SCREEN quality,
as well as play the VHS/Beta videos and get full screen quality.
You decide who to trust.
OldCritter
2003-11-26 08:17:01 UTC
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What a great thread. My advice before sending money to anyone, particularly
someone who solicits you to commit a crime (buying underage pornographic
videos if you live in the US is a crime), is to do a bit of research on that
person.

This can be accomplished very easily and quickly. Go to "Google", hit "groups"
and do a search for "Terry Ortman". Then decide to Whom to Trust with Your
Money. At the very least you will have 2920 hits of marginally entertaining
reading. Read Terry's own words, and judge for yourself.

A day early - or possibly not - have a Happy Turkey Day!

OC



Old Critter
Evil Incarnate
2003-11-30 16:20:22 UTC
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You were right, it made for an amusing read.
Post by OldCritter
What a great thread. My advice before sending money to anyone, particularly
someone who solicits you to commit a crime (buying underage pornographic
videos if you live in the US is a crime), is to do a bit of research on that
person.
This can be accomplished very easily and quickly. Go to "Google", hit "groups"
and do a search for "Terry Ortman". Then decide to Whom to Trust with Your
Money. At the very least you will have 2920 hits of marginally entertaining
reading. Read Terry's own words, and judge for yourself.
A day early - or possibly not - have a Happy Turkey Day!
OC
Old Critter
dupas
2003-12-05 09:58:51 UTC
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I love how this loon names me about 50 times claiming all sorts of
things "I've" done to him despite the fact I haven't been able to post
regularly here for quite awhile. Terry, take your medicine. Now go
lay in a nice warm bath. Feeling better? Excellent. Now I want you
to pick up the razor ...no, no, it's okay, calm...calm...relax....now
place the blade ...that's it...you've tried this before I
see...aaaaaaaannnnd....

cut.
dupas
2003-12-05 10:04:02 UTC
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Terry is now posting in the Home Theater Forum looking for Adult
LaserDiscs....lol fucking sad little botched abortion...
dupas
2003-12-05 10:12:10 UTC
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And here's some great old Terry posts to the Betamax PALsite looking
for stuff to pirate. How quaint.



Name: Terry Ortman
Email: ***@flashmail.com
Friday 23rd June 6:01 pm U.K. Time

I am in the process of getting a SONY SLO-1800 SuperBETA HiFi
Industrial duplicator, and will begin offering the videos we carry in
BETA format.

Absolute BETA is out at this time, but does anyone know, or have one
that they wish to part with, a multistandard NTSC/PAL/SECAM SuperBETA
HiFi VCR?

I am also looking for some 1984-1987 BETA Videos of some Adult Titles
that were produced, and would be willing to buy/trade for titles I
don't have.

Those who can help can email me, and I can provide them with the list
of videos I need. Thanks in advance.


Name: Terry Ortman
Email: ***@flashmail.com
Monday 26th June 3:35 am U.K. Time

I'm trying to locate some movies on Betamax that were made between
1984 and 1987. I know people are buying pre-recorded tapes to
re-record on, but I am particularly interested in some Adult Videos
that were made.

If anyone has any prerecorded Adult BETA Videos, that they are
interested in selling, contact me for a list of what I want, or just
email me a list of what you have. As long as BETA PAL/SECAM machines
kept the same tape speed, I have a digital converter to convert tapes.
VHS machines have different tape speeds on PAL/SECAM machines, ie a
T-60 in SP NTSC is 60 minutes, whereas in PAL/SECAM SP it is approx.
90 minutes.

Thanks in advance.


Name: Terry Ortman
Email: ***@flashmail.com
Monday 30th October 6:16 am U.K. Time

I'm looking to buy SuperBETA Hi-Fi VCRs for recording purposes.

I'm also looking for some of the first prerecorded tapes that came out
in the 70's, old B-movies, and Adult Hardcore videos from the 70's and
80's.

If anyone can help, please email me, with what you have.

I'm in the USA, but if the PAL/SECAM BETA players run at the same
speed, I have a conversion VCR to convert signals to NTSC. The reason
I ask is that the VHS machines seem to equate PAL/SECAM SP as LP
speeds, and LP as EP/SLP, but the NTSC machines won't play them as
LP/EP. I've read that the BETA machines will play the tapes with a B&W
picture, so I assume the tape speeds are the same as I see PAL tapes
listed as L500 L750 L830, but on the VHS side, A T120 is an E180,
etc..

Thanks in advance.

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