Discussion:
Question about some 1984 TL photos
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Nice Guy
2004-01-24 07:56:13 UTC
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I have a question for the TL experts on this group. I have a
publication which might contain some rare 1984(?) TL pics, but I would
like to get more info about them from someone who knows where they
might have come from originally.

On the cover of the the Dec.1984-Jan.1985 Dutch magazine "Sexteen" is
a photo of TL wearing a muti-coloured (black with vertical
muticoloured lines) strapless bikini. There are also several topless
and nude photos of TL inside the magazine. Her hair is natural
looking and darker brown than in her 84 Penthouse centerfold pics or
the Bteen series. Some of the pics inside the magazine are taken in
front of a mural depicting a scene from nightclub, with a couple
wearing fancy dress being served by a waiter in a white tux and a
cigarette girl. TL's head is strongly backlit in these bikini photos.
Other TL pics are of TL inside a bedroom, on a bed with white
duvet/pillows, against a wall covered in (unusual) wallpaper with
green palm and other leaves on a white background. In both sets of
pics TL looks as young or younger than either the Bteen or Penthouse
photos which were also published in 1984.

Does anyone know where these pics came from originally, when they were
taken (obviously must have been before publication in Dec 1984)??
David L Gorsich
2004-01-24 15:41:00 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
I have a question for the TL experts on this group. I have a
publication which might contain some rare 1984(?) TL pics, but I would
like to get more info about them from someone who knows where they
might have come from originally.
On the cover of the the Dec.1984-Jan.1985 Dutch magazine "Sexteen" is
a photo of TL wearing a muti-coloured (black with vertical
muticoloured lines) strapless bikini. There are also several topless
and nude photos of TL inside the magazine. Her hair is natural
looking and darker brown than in her 84 Penthouse centerfold pics or
the Bteen series. Some of the pics inside the magazine are taken in
front of a mural depicting a scene from nightclub, with a couple
wearing fancy dress being served by a waiter in a white tux and a
cigarette girl. TL's head is strongly backlit in these bikini photos.
Other TL pics are of TL inside a bedroom, on a bed with white
duvet/pillows, against a wall covered in (unusual) wallpaper with
green palm and other leaves on a white background. In both sets of
pics TL looks as young or younger than either the Bteen or Penthouse
photos which were also published in 1984.
Does anyone know where these pics came from originally, when they were
taken (obviously must have been before publication in Dec 1984)??
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol 49,
No. 9 of September 1984. The magazine is a Paul Raymond production
for the UK. The shoot is credited to a "Rupert Daines", though this
may be a pseudonymn - some collectors believe this is a Paul Vogel
shoot. The shoot shows tremendous variety - the bikini in a few, fully
nude in some, some with a white T-shirt-like top with a few small pink
or red hearts printed on it. Some use the painting as background,
some use a brown leather setee next to a fireplace set in a mottled
used-brick wall. Others are in the bedroom setting, a few in an
outside patio. Those who suggest Paul Vogel as the photographer say
the shoot probably originates in a mansion in the Hollywood Hills.
The shoot is definitely an early one - among the first dozen
or so of early Spring 1984. Traci was not yet well-known, and the
shoot does not appear to have been commissioned by an American
magazine - more likely a free-lance effort by the photographer.
Apparently the photographer found a European publisher as a buyer, as
examples from the shoot can be found in European publications late in
1984. I have seen some of these in a Swedish publication called
Stopp, Britain's Paul Raymond publications Men Only, Model
Celebrities, and Model Directory, Belgian magazines called Paris-Las
Vegas and Revelation, and a few others. Those who espouse Paul Vogel
as the photographer point to the fact that several of his layouts were
sold in Europe during this period.
Most importantly, I have not seen the particular magazine you
describe, and would love to discuss a trade.

***@aol.com
Kenny
2004-01-24 17:22:53 UTC
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Post by David L Gorsich
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol 49,
No. 9 of September 1984....
How old was she then?

K
David L Gorsich
2004-01-24 19:27:37 UTC
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Post by Kenny
Post by David L Gorsich
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol
49,
Post by David L Gorsich
No. 9 of September 1984....
How old was she then?
K
Kenny - Shame on you! A gentleman NEVER asks a lady her age!

sotofs
Kenny
2004-01-24 19:40:49 UTC
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Post by David L Gorsich
Kenny - Shame on you! A gentleman NEVER asks a lady her age!
sotofs
At a porno shoot? Better than answering the FBI. Anyway, I make her
16 so it looks like trouble.

K
H***@Hotmail.com
2004-01-27 15:02:10 UTC
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Post by Kenny
Post by David L Gorsich
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol
49,
Post by David L Gorsich
No. 9 of September 1984....
How old was she then?
K
If not mistaken "15"

H.
SlaveTrainer
2004-02-23 05:25:51 UTC
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Post by David L Gorsich
Post by Nice Guy
I have a question for the TL experts on this group. I have a
publication which might contain some rare 1984(?) TL pics, but I would
like to get more info about them from someone who knows where they
might have come from originally.
On the cover of the the Dec.1984-Jan.1985 Dutch magazine "Sexteen" is
a photo of TL wearing a muti-coloured (black with vertical
muticoloured lines) strapless bikini. There are also several topless
and nude photos of TL inside the magazine. Her hair is natural
looking and darker brown than in her 84 Penthouse centerfold pics or
the Bteen series. Some of the pics inside the magazine are taken in
front of a mural depicting a scene from nightclub, with a couple
wearing fancy dress being served by a waiter in a white tux and a
cigarette girl. TL's head is strongly backlit in these bikini photos.
Other TL pics are of TL inside a bedroom, on a bed with white
duvet/pillows, against a wall covered in (unusual) wallpaper with
green palm and other leaves on a white background. In both sets of
pics TL looks as young or younger than either the Bteen or Penthouse
photos which were also published in 1984.
Does anyone know where these pics came from originally, when they were
taken (obviously must have been before publication in Dec 1984)??
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol 49,
No. 9 of September 1984. The magazine is a Paul Raymond production
for the UK. The shoot is credited to a "Rupert Daines", though this
may be a pseudonymn - some collectors believe this is a Paul Vogel
shoot. The shoot shows tremendous variety - the bikini in a few, fully
nude in some, some with a white T-shirt-like top with a few small pink
or red hearts printed on it. Some use the painting as background,
some use a brown leather setee next to a fireplace set in a mottled
used-brick wall. Others are in the bedroom setting, a few in an
outside patio. Those who suggest Paul Vogel as the photographer say
the shoot probably originates in a mansion in the Hollywood Hills.
The shoot is definitely an early one - among the first dozen
or so of early Spring 1984. Traci was not yet well-known, and the
shoot does not appear to have been commissioned by an American
magazine - more likely a free-lance effort by the photographer.
Apparently the photographer found a European publisher as a buyer, as
examples from the shoot can be found in European publications late in
1984. I have seen some of these in a Swedish publication called
Stopp, Britain's Paul Raymond publications Men Only, Model
Celebrities, and Model Directory, Belgian magazines called Paris-Las
Vegas and Revelation, and a few others. Those who espouse Paul Vogel
as the photographer point to the fact that several of his layouts were
sold in Europe during this period.
Most importantly, I have not seen the particular magazine you
describe, and would love to discuss a trade.
If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
SlaveTrainer
2004-02-23 06:35:04 UTC
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Post by SlaveTrainer
Post by David L Gorsich
Post by Nice Guy
I have a question for the TL experts on this group. I have a
publication which might contain some rare 1984(?) TL pics, but I would
like to get more info about them from someone who knows where they
might have come from originally.
On the cover of the the Dec.1984-Jan.1985 Dutch magazine "Sexteen" is
a photo of TL wearing a muti-coloured (black with vertical
muticoloured lines) strapless bikini. There are also several topless
and nude photos of TL inside the magazine. Her hair is natural
looking and darker brown than in her 84 Penthouse centerfold pics or
the Bteen series. Some of the pics inside the magazine are taken in
front of a mural depicting a scene from nightclub, with a couple
wearing fancy dress being served by a waiter in a white tux and a
cigarette girl. TL's head is strongly backlit in these bikini photos.
Other TL pics are of TL inside a bedroom, on a bed with white
duvet/pillows, against a wall covered in (unusual) wallpaper with
green palm and other leaves on a white background. In both sets of
pics TL looks as young or younger than either the Bteen or Penthouse
photos which were also published in 1984.
Does anyone know where these pics came from originally, when they were
taken (obviously must have been before publication in Dec 1984)??
Sounds like photos fram a shoot often referred to as 'Kitten". The
earliest appearance of any of these appears to be in Men Only, Vol 49,
No. 9 of September 1984. The magazine is a Paul Raymond production
for the UK. The shoot is credited to a "Rupert Daines", though this
may be a pseudonymn - some collectors believe this is a Paul Vogel
shoot. The shoot shows tremendous variety - the bikini in a few, fully
nude in some, some with a white T-shirt-like top with a few small pink
or red hearts printed on it. Some use the painting as background,
some use a brown leather setee next to a fireplace set in a mottled
used-brick wall. Others are in the bedroom setting, a few in an
outside patio. Those who suggest Paul Vogel as the photographer say
the shoot probably originates in a mansion in the Hollywood Hills.
The shoot is definitely an early one - among the first dozen
or so of early Spring 1984. Traci was not yet well-known, and the
shoot does not appear to have been commissioned by an American
magazine - more likely a free-lance effort by the photographer.
Apparently the photographer found a European publisher as a buyer, as
examples from the shoot can be found in European publications late in
1984. I have seen some of these in a Swedish publication called
Stopp, Britain's Paul Raymond publications Men Only, Model
Celebrities, and Model Directory, Belgian magazines called Paris-Las
Vegas and Revelation, and a few others. Those who espouse Paul Vogel
as the photographer point to the fact that several of his layouts were
sold in Europe during this period.
Most importantly, I have not seen the particular magazine you
describe, and would love to discuss a trade.
If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
Evil Incarnate
2004-01-25 07:32:35 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
I have a question for the TL experts on this group. I have a
publication which might contain some rare 1984(?) TL pics, but I would
like to get more info about them from someone who knows where they
might have come from originally.
On the cover of the the Dec.1984-Jan.1985 Dutch magazine "Sexteen" is
a photo of TL wearing a muti-coloured (black with vertical
muticoloured lines) strapless bikini. There are also several topless
and nude photos of TL inside the magazine. Her hair is natural
looking and darker brown than in her 84 Penthouse centerfold pics or
the Bteen series. Some of the pics inside the magazine are taken in
front of a mural depicting a scene from nightclub, with a couple
wearing fancy dress being served by a waiter in a white tux and a
cigarette girl. TL's head is strongly backlit in these bikini photos.
Other TL pics are of TL inside a bedroom, on a bed with white
duvet/pillows, against a wall covered in (unusual) wallpaper with
green palm and other leaves on a white background. In both sets of
pics TL looks as young or younger than either the Bteen or Penthouse
photos which were also published in 1984.
Does anyone know where these pics came from originally, when they were
taken (obviously must have been before publication in Dec 1984)??
Hey any chance of you scanning those pix and sending them out to the
list for us to enjoy?

Evil
Nice Guy
2004-01-25 14:47:58 UTC
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Post by Evil Incarnate
Hey any chance of you scanning those pix and sending them out to the
list for us to enjoy?
Evil
sorry, I have no scanner...
Evil Incarnate
2004-01-26 08:05:40 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
Post by Evil Incarnate
Hey any chance of you scanning those pix and sending them out to the
list for us to enjoy?
Evil
sorry, I have no scanner...
Drat...got any friends who do have one?

Evil
Joe
2004-01-29 04:29:56 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:05:40 -0500, Evil Incarnate
Post by Evil Incarnate
Post by Nice Guy
Post by Evil Incarnate
Hey any chance of you scanning those pix and sending them out to the
list for us to enjoy?
Evil
sorry, I have no scanner...
Drat...got any friends who do have one?
Evil
If you don't know someone, buy one. They're not that expensive...
Otherwise send the mag to someone on the usenet who does and have them
post for you...

-Badmofojo
Nice Guy
2004-02-17 20:02:11 UTC
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Post by Joe
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:05:40 -0500, Evil Incarnate
Post by Evil Incarnate
Post by Nice Guy
Post by Evil Incarnate
Hey any chance of you scanning those pix and sending them out to the
list for us to enjoy?
Evil
sorry, I have no scanner...
Drat...got any friends who do have one?
Evil
If you don't know someone, buy one. They're not that expensive...
Otherwise send the mag to someone on the usenet who does and have them
post for you...
-Badmofojo
I found a couple of jpegs from the same photo shoot (not the exact
same ones as in the mag but definately the same bacground and
lighting. I would post them if I knew how to upload jpegs to googgle
groups! Would someone please tell me how to?
Ron Smith
2004-02-17 20:30:09 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
I found a couple of jpegs from the same photo shoot (not the exact
same ones as in the mag but definately the same bacground and
lighting. I would post them if I knew how to upload jpegs to
googgle
Post by Nice Guy
groups! Would someone please tell me how to?
Why can't you post via your ISP? Try a search for (free usenet
posting account)

http://www.teranews.com/ may be OK.

R
Nice Guy
2004-02-18 07:38:40 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
Post by Nice Guy
I found a couple of jpegs from the same photo shoot (not the exact
same ones as in the mag but definately the same bacground and
lighting. I would post them if I knew how to upload jpegs to
googgle
Post by Nice Guy
groups! Would someone please tell me how to?
Why can't you post via your ISP? Try a search for (free usenet
posting account)
http://www.teranews.com/ may be OK.
R
I'm not going through some complicated convoluted process to do this,
why in hell can't jpegs be simply and easily uploaded via google? I
can't be bothered with this. If YOU want to post them I can email the
jpegs to you....
Ron Smith
2004-02-18 18:31:09 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
I'm not going through some complicated convoluted process to do this,
why in hell can't jpegs be simply and easily uploaded via google?
I
Post by Nice Guy
can't be bothered with this. If YOU want to post them I can email the
jpegs to you....
Google is really an archive for old postings on some groups. It
strips binaries from these, so I don't know if it permits them to be
attached - I never found a way to do this.

There are a couple of sites that archive Usenet binaries, but I don't
believe they allow posting.

R
SlaveTrainer
2004-02-19 23:32:53 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
I'm not going through some complicated convoluted process to do this,
why in hell can't jpegs be simply and easily uploaded via google? I
can't be bothered with this. If YOU want to post them I can email the
jpegs to you....
You can e-mail them to me and I will post them for you, both here
where they may or may not be stripped and to the binary group.
Email them to slavtrainr AT aol dot com
If you want to be sure I am a long time poster here that can be
trusted just do a Google search under SlaveTrainer


If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
DrBob
2004-02-20 04:40:11 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:32:53 -0600, SlaveTrainer
Post by SlaveTrainer
If you want to be sure I am a long time poster here that can be
trusted just do a Google search under SlaveTrainer
ST is one of the best posters and helpful individuals in aftl. for
example, the irc channel amoung others...
for what its worth, i can vouch for him

db
Nice Guy
2004-02-20 18:55:42 UTC
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Post by DrBob
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:32:53 -0600, SlaveTrainer
Post by SlaveTrainer
If you want to be sure I am a long time poster here that can be
trusted just do a Google search under SlaveTrainer
ST is one of the best posters and helpful individuals in aftl. for
example, the irc channel amoung others...
for what its worth, i can vouch for him
db
that's nice, but his email address doesn't work, so I can't email him the jpegs.
Ron Smith
2004-02-20 19:01:39 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
Post by DrBob
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:32:53 -0600, SlaveTrainer
Post by SlaveTrainer
If you want to be sure I am a long time poster here that can be
trusted just do a Google search under SlaveTrainer
ST is one of the best posters and helpful individuals in aftl. for
example, the irc channel amoung others...
for what its worth, i can vouch for him
db
that's nice, but his email address doesn't work, so I can't email him the jpegs.
(slavtrainr AT aol dot com) doesn't work?

foobar AT aol dot com converts to ***@aol.com - understand?

R
zippo
2004-02-20 20:06:10 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
Post by DrBob
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:32:53 -0600, SlaveTrainer
Post by SlaveTrainer
If you want to be sure I am a long time poster here that can be
trusted just do a Google search under SlaveTrainer
ST is one of the best posters and helpful individuals in aftl. for
example, the irc channel amoung others...
for what its worth, i can vouch for him
db
that's nice, but his email address doesn't work, so I can't email him the jpegs.
sorry to but in (I missed the start of this thread) but if you can post
here is there some reason you cant post pictures here ?

- zippo -
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Ron Smith
2004-02-20 20:18:27 UTC
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Post by zippo
sorry to but in (I missed the start of this thread) but if you can post
here is there some reason you cant post pictures here ?
He's accessing the NG via Google only.

R
SlaveTrainer
2004-02-20 20:24:29 UTC
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Post by zippo
sorry to but in (I missed the start of this thread) but if you can post
here is there some reason you cant post pictures here ?
- zippo -
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Also, being as it is actually a text group, not a binary attachment
group, many servers will strip the pictures from the posts. This is
why we created the binary TL group. This group greatly died out when
we all went to the binary group, all that really remains here is the
occasional discussion.

ST


If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
Frank Simmons
2004-02-21 22:59:06 UTC
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Post by SlaveTrainer
This group greatly died out when
we all went to the binary group, all that really remains here is the
occasional discussion.
Which actually bums me out some. It's the discussion that I enjoyed - anybody
can look at pictures of Traci.

Frank

** Traci, Ginger, Christy, Amber, Nicole W., Nikki C., Nikki R.; Those Were The
Days **
SlaveTrainer
2004-02-20 20:27:00 UTC
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Post by Nice Guy
that's nice, but his email address doesn't work, so I can't email him the jpegs.
You can't just re me via e-mail. You have to type in (in proper
e-mail code) SLAVTRAINR at AOLdotCOM

Put an @ in the at spot and a . in the dot part and squish it all
together. It avoids spambots that look for e-mail addresses in posts
and headers.

http://dupasoi7.home.mindspring.com/faq/welcome.htm
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