TRACI'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY

[Brett Hampton]

:I have been waiting for this for months, but Amazon still doesn't have a
:release date for it. When will it be released? If it's not going to be
:released soon how can I get an advance copy of it? It will be really
:interesting to finally hear Traci's "real" side of the story after over 15
:years.

Traci's 'real' side? You think she will tell the truth? Why would she
when she has not so far! She will just tell the usual 'truth' from her
point of view.

The book is out in stores now; at least, I found several at Borders in
Sherman Oaks.

As for this book revealing the "truth;" well, I'm sure there are
several "true" passages, but Traci's chosen to focus on the notoriety
and post-porn career she wouldn't have had but for her porn career.
She has chosen to portray herself as a victim with a troubled
childhood. It sounds to me like the manipulations and deceit with
which she conducted her porn career are an innate and indelible part
of her personality. Perhaps one day, someone will be able to write
and publish the real "true story" on Traci Lords.

[H***@nospammers.com]

:>>
:>> >
:>> >>:I have been waiting for this for months, but Amazon still doesn't have a
:>> >>:release date for it. When will it be released? If it's not going to be
:>> >>:released soon how can I get an advance copy of it? It will be really
:>> >>:interesting to finally hear Traci's "real" side of the story after over 15
:>> >>:years.
:>>
:>> Traci's 'real' side? You think she will tell the truth? Why would she
:>> when she has not so far! She will just tell the usual 'truth' from her
:>> point of view.
:>
:>The book is out in stores now; at least, I found several at Borders in
:>Sherman Oaks.
:>
:>As for this book revealing the "truth;" well, I'm sure there are
:>several "true" passages, but Traci's chosen to focus on the notoriety
:>and post-porn career she wouldn't have had but for her porn career.
:>She has chosen to portray herself as a victim with a troubled
:>childhood. It sounds to me like the manipulations and deceit with
:>which she conducted her porn career are an innate and indelible part
:>of her personality. Perhaps one day, someone will be able to write
:>and publish the real "true story" on Traci Lords.<<<
:Why do you have a hard time believing Traci was a 'victim with a
:troubled childhood'? She was 15 years old when she got into porn!
:Maybe she was a conniving person back then but that doesn't change the
:fact she was just a minor. I still don't buy the 'porn industry'
:line that no one knew for her nearly 3 year career that she was
:underage.
:I applaud Traci for turning her life around and becoming the person
:she is today.
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I'll probably get alot of flack here, but sorry guys, I have to agree,
applaud her, there were too many adults telling her this was the right
way " manipulations and deceit" Thats the adults man, not Traci. and
leading her on, and I bet also she got super ripped off,
lost millions of $$$, money changing hands behind her back.
My god man, Look at all the stuff out there, she should have been
super rich, but she isn't, cause of the people she was dealing with
paid her in cash, $200 is alot of money to a 15 yr old, and the Porn
industy people sat back and said "stupid bitch" we'll just milk her,
sorry honey.
Right also she was just a naive 15 yr old, reckless abused,
finally got tired of the whole mess, it was driving here crazy,
I recall a interview a years ago were she said it was difficult
to have sex in a relationship and then go back and film sex scenes.
This is so true, for she started to grow up, and started to know what
she was doing was wrong.
Give the girl some credit, for getting out while she could.
I think shes great, really proud of her

[SlaveTrainer]

Post by H***@nospammers.com
Right also she was just a naive 15 yr old, reckless abused,
finally got tired of the whole mess, it was driving here crazy,

I have to disagree. I was a 15 yr old drug dealer. I was a "kingpin"
in the area. I dealt in pounds of weed and ounces of coke at a time. I
had been dealing since I was 13. I was in no way naive or an abused
child, I was just financially wise. I believe Traci was also an astute
kid who knew what she wanted and the best way to get there.
Unfortunately for me my drug dealing days wasn't a spring board to a
more lucritive life although the business experiance did help me in my
developement of legit business down the road.
I will always believe TL knew EXACTLY what she was doing and is now
lying through her teeth to save face and put on a clean face.
15 yr olds can be very wise and mature.

ST


If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.

[H***@nospammers.com]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:27:04 -0500, SlaveTrainer

:> Right also she was just a naive 15 yr old, reckless abused,
:> finally got tired of the whole mess, it was driving here crazy,
:I have to disagree. I was a 15 yr old drug dealer. I was a "kingpin"
:in the area. I dealt in pounds of weed and ounces of coke at a time. I
:had been dealing since I was 13. I was in no way naive or an abused
:child, I was just financially wise. I believe Traci was also an astute
:kid who knew what she wanted and the best way to get there.
:Unfortunately for me my drug dealing days wasn't a spring board to a
:more lucritive life although the business experiance did help me in my
:developement of legit business down the road.
:I will always believe TL knew EXACTLY what she was doing and is now
:lying through her teeth to save face and put on a clean face.
:15 yr olds can be very wise and mature.
:ST
:If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.

I tend the disagree , your entitled to your opinion, heck were always
gonna hit the speed bums on this topic, none the less, if you were a
young female, beaten and abused by a drunken father, raped at 10, and
you come from poor section of town, then get hit up by mothers
boyfriend, and taken to her first modeling session, (Its like pimping
her) lets see how you feel. There were always Adults who showed her
how to get around the business.
Come on dude, get real a minute, dealing drugs is one thing for a guy,
I too dealt in drugs ar 15 but was no way a genus as you claim to have
been, I give you points there man.
But most female teens at 13 - 15 don't know crap what is happening,
maybe by the time she was 18 she realized what a crappy business she
was in. Were talking about a young girl, I still say there were ADULTS
who did most of her business deals, talking about, how she got her
modeling and film roles, took huge cut without her knowledge there for
got ripped off big time.
Its unfair to keep abusing her after all these years, yeah accidents
do happen for whatever reason.

[dupas]

Post by H***@nospammers.com
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:27:04 -0500, SlaveTrainer

:> Right also she was just a naive 15 yr old, reckless abused,
:> finally got tired of the whole mess, it was driving here crazy,
:I have to disagree. I was a 15 yr old drug dealer. I was a "kingpin"
:in the area. I dealt in pounds of weed and ounces of coke at a time. I
:had been dealing since I was 13. I was in no way naive or an abused
:child, I was just financially wise. I believe Traci was also an astute
:kid who knew what she wanted and the best way to get there.
:Unfortunately for me my drug dealing days wasn't a spring board to a
:more lucritive life although the business experiance did help me in my
:developement of legit business down the road.
:I will always believe TL knew EXACTLY what she was doing and is now
:lying through her teeth to save face and put on a clean face.
:15 yr olds can be very wise and mature.
:ST
:If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.

I tend the disagree , your entitled to your opinion, heck were always
gonna hit the speed bums on this topic, none the less, if you were a
young female, beaten and abused by a drunken father, raped at 10, and
you come from poor section of town, then get hit up by mothers
boyfriend, and taken to her first modeling session, (Its like pimping
her) lets see how you feel. There were always Adults who showed her
how to get around the business.
Come on dude, get real a minute, dealing drugs is one thing for a guy,
I too dealt in drugs ar 15 but was no way a genus as you claim to have
been, I give you points there man.
But most female teens at 13 - 15 don't know crap what is happening,
maybe by the time she was 18 she realized what a crappy business she
was in. Were talking about a young girl, I still say there were ADULTS
who did most of her business deals, talking about, how she got her
modeling and film roles, took huge cut without her knowledge there for
got ripped off big time.
Its unfair to keep abusing her after all these years, yeah accidents
do happen for whatever reason.

Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now). She
obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.
However she got into the business, I believe after becoming a name she
exploited it for all the industry was worth. I say bravo to that.
But let's not pretend she remained a naive waif all throughout her
Adult career.

dupas
- AFT-L/ABPET-L FAQ

[H***@nospammers.com]

:>On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:27:04 -0500, SlaveTrainer
:>
:>>:> Right also she was just a naive 15 yr old, reckless abused,
:>>:> finally got tired of the whole mess, it was driving here crazy,
:>>:I have to disagree. I was a 15 yr old drug dealer. I was a "kingpin"
:>>:in the area. I dealt in pounds of weed and ounces of coke at a time. I
:>>:had been dealing since I was 13. I was in no way naive or an abused
:>>:child, I was just financially wise. I believe Traci was also an astute
:>>:kid who knew what she wanted and the best way to get there.
:>>:Unfortunately for me my drug dealing days wasn't a spring board to a
:>>:more lucritive life although the business experiance did help me in my
:>>:developement of legit business down the road.
:>>:I will always believe TL knew EXACTLY what she was doing and is now
:>>:lying through her teeth to save face and put on a clean face.
:>>:15 yr olds can be very wise and mature.
:>>:ST
:>>:If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
:>
:>I tend the disagree , your entitled to your opinion, heck were always
:>gonna hit the speed bums on this topic, none the less, if you were a
:>young female, beaten and abused by a drunken father, raped at 10, and
:>you come from poor section of town, then get hit up by mothers
:>boyfriend, and taken to her first modeling session, (Its like pimping
:>her) lets see how you feel. There were always Adults who showed her
:>how to get around the business.
:>Come on dude, get real a minute, dealing drugs is one thing for a guy,
:>I too dealt in drugs ar 15 but was no way a genus as you claim to have
:>been, I give you points there man.
:>But most female teens at 13 - 15 don't know crap what is happening,
:>maybe by the time she was 18 she realized what a crappy business she
:>was in. Were talking about a young girl, I still say there were ADULTS
:>who did most of her business deals, talking about, how she got her
:>modeling and film roles, took huge cut without her knowledge there for
:>got ripped off big time.
:>Its unfair to keep abusing her after all these years, yeah accidents
:>do happen for whatever reason.
:Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
:goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now). She
:obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.
:However she got into the business, I believe after becoming a name she
:exploited it for all the industry was worth. I say bravo to that.
:But let's not pretend she remained a naive waif all throughout her
:Adult career.
:dupas
:- AFT-L/ABPET-L FAQ

Lots of people, celebrities change names, even before the infamy she
was a fan of Jack Lord, but thats okay and I too say Bravo.
No one here is pretending, even in adult life she made dumb mistakes
(relationships, everyone does) As an adult, she is not naive, rather
she has become a smart business woman, accomplished model, actress and
singer. Very discipline woman. Treat her with respect and shes very
nice to fans, down to earth, wish her the best.

H.

[H***@nospammers.com]

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:22:00 GMT, SlaveTrainer

:> Treat her with respect and shes very
:>nice to fans, down to earth, wish her the best.
:>
:>H.
:Oh, I respect her for the PR work she has done sugar coating her life
:to gain a mainstream career and evoke sympathy where little is due.
:She fucked over ALOT of people to climb to the level she is at. Those
:people did NOTHING to deserve the losses they took at her hand. The
:least she could do is be totally honest in her book, but that may not
:get her the jobs she wants to get now. I have no ill will towards her
:and congratulate her for getting exactly where she wanted to be, even
:if it was at the loss of multiple millions of dollars to people who
:never did a damn thing to deserve her deceit. She may be nice to her
:fans, but she still has no shame.
:ST
:If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.
:if it was at the loss of multiple millions of dollars to people who
:never did a damn thing to deserve her deceit.

Speed bumps, You forget it was ADULTS giving her advice, feeding her
brain, I'd blame them before blaming her, glad you find something to
congratulate her with, still were back to Adults, showing her the way.

Speed bumps, Millions of dollars she caused the industry to loose? Beg
to differ, She's a naive teenager, she got the short end of the
straw, back to adults giving her advice. Look at all that stuff, mags,
films out there man, she should have been super rich, but she's not!
Never earned her full take or value.
Figured, taking cash at each time was better while the "Industry" took
full advantage of her (even if they didn't know she was under age, but
some one did, namely Mom's leery boyfriend) The "Industry" knew they
had a live one. Resell her, pimp her here and there for very little
$$$ They made the Millions off her before it all came crashing down.
Sorry man, the Industry got what they deserved in the end.

Go on Cry me a river...

[SlaveTrainer]

Post by H***@nospammers.com
Speed bumps, You forget it was ADULTS giving her advice, feeding her
brain, I'd blame them before blaming her, glad you find something to
congratulate her with, still were back to Adults, showing her the way.

And lest we forget, she was PRETENDING to be an adult and portraying
herself with ID AND PASSPORT as an adult. THEY did nothing wrong. SHE
DID. It was HER, not them "feeding" her anything. SHE needs to take
responsibility for what SHE did, not try to lay the balme on the
adults she FOOLED.
Again, THEY did nothing wrong. They didn't fill her head with anything
as they didn't know she was a minor.

ST


If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.

[SlaveTrainer]

You don't think the porn industry takes advantage of young girls in
the 18-21 age category? Of course they do! Why would it be any
different with a 15 year old? She used 2 different social security
numbers during her time in the business. How come nobody caught
this? They obviously didn't care since she was a big money maker,
for THEM, not her.

An 18 - 21 yr old can make decisions for themselves. They can vote
and the can fuck for money on film. They can also be tried for murder
and executed in many states. The SS thing is easy to miss if you
aren't looking for it. An I.D. and a U.S. passport are pretty damn
convincing.


If you drink, don't park. Accidents cause people.

[BTR1701]

Post by dupas
Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now). She
obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.

Well, that and the fact that Traci Lords makes for a better sounding
marquee and stage name than Nora Kuzma. There have been lots of non-porn
actors who have used stage names that were jazzier than their real names
as well.

[Blarg]

Post by BTR1701

Post by dupas
Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now). She
obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.

Well, that and the fact that Traci Lords makes for a better sounding
marquee and stage name than Nora Kuzma. There have been lots of non-porn
actors who have used stage names that were jazzier than their real names
as well.

Yes, like 100% of them.

[Blarg]

Post by Blarg

Post by BTR1701

Post by dupas
Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now).

She

Post by Blarg

Post by BTR1701

Post by dupas
obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.

Well, that and the fact that Traci Lords makes for a better sounding
marquee and stage name than Nora Kuzma. There have been lots of non-porn
actors who have used stage names that were jazzier than their real names
as well.

Yes, like 100% of them.

No, not even close to that many.

Okay, 92%.

[dupas]

Post by BTR1701

Post by dupas
Regardless of which is "true" let's not forget the fact that she still
goes by the name Traci Lords (albeit Traci ELIZABETH Lords now). She
obviously knows how to capitalize on the infamy of her own past.

Well, that and the fact that Traci Lords makes for a better sounding
marquee and stage name than Nora Kuzma. There have been lots of non-porn
actors who have used stage names that were jazzier than their real names
as well.

But my point is that "Traci Lords" was her porn name. If she wanted
to distance herself from this past that has caused her nothing but
grief in an industry that exploited her etc, why not change the name
to something else? Because the name is known. Exploit it.

dupas
- AFT-L/ABPET-L FAQ

[Ben]

Post by Brett Hampton
As for this book revealing the "truth;" well, I'm sure there are
several "true" passages, but Traci's chosen to focus on the notoriety
and post-porn career she wouldn't have had but for her porn career.
She has chosen to portray herself as a victim with a troubled
childhood. It sounds to me like the manipulations and deceit with
which she conducted her porn career are an innate and indelible part
of her personality. Perhaps one day, someone will be able to write
and publish the real "true story" on Traci Lords.

Regardless if people question think that passages in her book are
untrue, it'll be hard to disprove someone who's constantly appearing
on national TV not to mention what's documented in millions of copies
of books as 'fact'. It'll make life difficult for her critics to
discredit Traci, when (a) what is considered truth is coming straight
from her mouth in front of national audience, and (b) when masses of
people are inspired and resonate with her life's story. Now that her
book is officially released...it's time to get into a totally different
mindset altogether.

[Holly]

I read the book and just finished it today. I couldn't put it down, she
opened herself up to everything and i applaud her for that Telling it how it
was. I could never imagine living the kind of life she lived and the amount
of assholes she had to go through to get to where she is. Shes truely a
brave soul and i'm glad she finally found someone who respects her for HER.
I wish her luck in her movie and music career!
Go buy that book today!!!